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Kenes Ramleh

The following advertisement is from Monday’s Makor Rishon. The conference is about the Jewish majority of Israel and migrant workers, illegal aliens, etc. The speakers seem to be a strange mix of serious scholars, politicians, and people, among them rabbis, whose ideas could probably be described as xenophobic.

Kenes Ramleh

4 Responses to “Kenes Ramleh”

  1. 1
    7azon Yesha3ya:

    surprising, goebels isn’t invited. but we don’t have to worry, we are developing our own home grown subs.

  2. 2
    Abba's Rantings:

    “whose ideas could probably be described as xenophobic”

    1) israel was established as a jewish state. concern with preserving a jewish majority may be “xenophobic,” but it may be warranted if it is important to preserve israel’s jewish majority (and character). perhaps in fact this is isn’t important, but then that’s a different question
    2) are all those who argue for withdrawing from the shetachim in order to preserve israel’s jewish majority also “xenophic” (or rather racist, etc. if you prefer)? nu, what are they afraid of? what’s wrong with a binational state with a jewish minority?

  3. 3
    Menachem Mendel:

    AR,

    I think that there is a difference between the desire for a state with a majority Jewish polity and the treatment of non-Jews as if they were some danger lurking at the door. The issue of migrant workers is a real one, but the irony is that many of the speakers at this conference from the religious sector are active supporters of continued Israeli control over the West Bank. I doubt that there are many supporters within Israel for a binational state with a Jewish minority. Even Buber and Magnes couldn’t find much support for that position in the 1930’s and 40’s.

  4. 4
    Abba's Rantings:

    MM:

    “I think that there is a difference between the desire for a state with a majority Jewish polity and the treatment of non-Jews as if they were some danger lurking at the door”

    what’s the difference? i presume that anyone who is committed to israel remaining a jewish state will at some point have to deal with a growing non-jewish population in an “undemocratic” manner. the only question is whether the danger is when that population is 20%, 35% or 49%. the status quo of a jewish majority may not last forever, with or without the shtachim.

    “the irony is that many of the speakers at this conference from the religious sector are active supporters of continued Israeli control over the West Bank”

    not necessarily ironic. i’m sure they are just as uncomfortable with the large palestinian population. however:
    1) some probably hope for transfer of the arabs (either in practice or as part of an eschatological framework) and are satisfied with waiting for that
    2) there is a difference between the two problems in that the palestinian problem is an inherited one and for the most part they are stuck with them. illegal immigrants on the other hand have no claim to residency. current immigrants can be deported and future immigration can be restricted to stem the growth of the existing population.

    in any case, i still think the biggger irony are the liberals who argue in favor of the illegal immigrants yet want to exclude the west bank palestinians from a future israeli society in order to preserve its jewish character.

    “Even Buber and Magnes”

    they were nuts in this regard (pardon me), although i just read their forceful response to gandhi’s anti-zionism (and his recommendation that german jews respond to the nazis with civil disobedience and martyrdom rather than emigration to eretz yisrael, violence, etc.)

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